. >> i think in romney's defense, i don't think it's easy to stand up and say i'm sorry i'm not your president. gwen: and he did use those words. >> he did. and swe spoke with art cardenas, the organizer of the event the day before and romney didn't really want to do the speech at first. which is why, image, in part, he did borrow from prior speech material to get himself through. as much as the governors are important, and they are and the fact that the ones who weren't there are probably the most rising stars -- prominent rising stars is an illustration of the split that exists in the republican party between the new ones and the base. the person who i think captivated the crowd the most was a senator, rand paul. he's different from his dad. he's not nearly 100. he's younger, hipper and had something to say. gwen: except that rand paul -- did he go over well in this crowd? this crowd is the no crowd. not the crowd of let's figure a way to the future. >> he's different and with in crowd what was interesting about him is that he gliverage -- flinched in ways that his father never bot